Gentlemen:
At the risk of escalating this already intense discussion of a now-personal nature, I am failing to see how any of this is related to 'Hardware' anymore. As a result I am going to hose you all down, before we get into a dick-swinging contest, which I see coming rapidly. Everyone is getting defensive, and I don't want to see anyone *getting their retaliation in first*.
Let's remember that our friendships here should mean far more than attempting to prove ourselves to each other. This thread is destined to get ugly, and I, for one, don't like that. Take a couple of deep breaths, and settle down.
You, too, Daniel. I created a special forum area just for you, and for this purpose. Use it instead. One thing that would really help around here is to keep our posting on-topic. Both you and George are often guilty of not doing that. Not *every* topic has to turn into a political/ideological/philosophical exchange. At GOL it is commonplace; I've seen it several times in the music thread, where all we want to do is to just make suggestions about music and artists we admire. We keep the leash pretty loose here, but maybe it should be tightened a bit. Keep the arguments about your principles where they belong.
If you guys insist on pursuing this particular discussion, may I suggest that it be taken into a different forum, preferably 'The Path I Walk', since it has now become a solely philosophical discussion rather than a Hardware one. Feel free to 'discuss' this further there.
Alternatively [and preferably] we can drop it altogether, and go back to being good mates again. For 13 years I've enjoyed the occasional banter, but this doesn't feel like fun.
From what I see, all this began with post #15. Not that it is so controversial in and of itself, but since it's cited thereafter in several of the posts, it has to go. So, with your agreement, I'll move that one and all posts after it to 'The Path I Walk', and you can go at it there, or as I said before, just let it go.
If anyone feels I'm out of line by saying this, let me know now, so I have an excuse to close the thread altogether. It's my job here to maintain a site that is appealing to *all* of our membership. I don't really think that our *other* readers are interested in a hardware discussion gone *sour*.