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That's perfect, thanks D~!

Not to worry, I'm several hours ahead of you, so I'd posted that then gone to sleep :rolling:
I was sure I got this wrong. When I look at the uploaded file it shows a blank!!
I think I let the blue smoke out of my head!! ":O}
 
How could any one sleep at time like this!!!

Two things. the first is that I run my computer on the same 43 inch as I run everything with.
So if I can do 4096 x2160 doesn't that prove my hardware is set up correctly?

The second thing is I'm lost, I forget these things very easily... I'm sure that will improve as I get older! LOL
So I forgot where I left off. So I'm going to run the series of commands again. It will give me a sense of accomplishment.

I'm telling you this only because were friends. and... So you will know why I'm doing this again.":O{}
 

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How could any one sleep at time like this!!!

Two things. the first is that I run my computer on the same 43 inch as I run everything with.
So if I can do 4096 x2160 doesn't that prove my hardware is set up correctly?

The second thing is I'm lost, I forget these things very easily... I'm sure that will improve as I get older! LOL
So I forgot where I left off. So I'm going to run the series of commands again. It will give me a sense of accomplishment.

I'm telling you this only because were friends. and... So you will know why I'm doing this again.":O{}

As you can see I have..."something" But I can't seem to open it, what do you use when default can't open a file...I know file dependent, so what do I use for this file?
 
Crud, I can't find the box that held my mainboard in the last system upgrade. Perhaps one of these connectors is in there. Arrgh. They are the up to date ones that supplanted data ribbons in days of old. Those ribbons looked cool, at least to me. BUT they were great blockers of air movement too.
Go on line and search your mother board, much easier than rampaging though your closets.":O}
 
Huston we have a problem.. (was that a bit of an understatement or what!?)

Ok here's what has befallen me.
My computer slows way way down. I had to re-boot 4 times just to get you this screen shot, I could not cut and paste. I ran the last command three times after rebooting. Always freezes up. Check out the message at the end, never seen it's like before! Notice that the screen shot app stay so long on the screen it got included in the screen shot!
 

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You want I should start over? A restore takes about 7 mins these days, just gotta love those SSDs":O}
 
Two things. the first is that I run my computer on the same 43 inch as I run everything with.
So if I can do 4096 x2160 doesn't that prove my hardware is set up correctly?
I could open the file - it was just a matter of downloading it and tar -xzf Xorg.0.log.tar.gz, and there's your log file all ready for me to review :)

Nothing too exciting in it - I just needed a benchmark to see what your system normally says: every system has its own collection of messages and warnings.

To answer your next question - your hardware might be set up correctly. B

You want I should start over? A restore takes about 7 mins these days, just gotta love those SSDs":O}
No need. I have all I need with those messages. Just reboot - you won't need the get-edid command again. We'll remove that package later.

Once you've rebooted, go ahead and install the latest version of nVidia drivers you have available - should be up in the 430s - then reboot again. Sorry, you'll be on 1920x1080 for a day or so, as our timezones don't align.

Once you've got the new drivers up and running, open a console and type:

xrandr --verbose

and paste up the output.
 
I'm turning in again shortly, as it's close to 10pm here, and I'm up again at 5am.

Just by way of background, when running through an A/V receiver, display setup takes a little longer, as an agreeable resolution and scan rate has to be set by all three devices in the chain. In essence, the computer asks the A/V receiver, the A/V receiver asks the TV, and passes the messages back.

What can happen - and what is happening here - is that the A/V unit is not actually passing on the TV's EDID (its menu of available resolutions and refresh rates) but passing junk instead. This is actually fairly normal with A/V units, and nothing to worry too much about.

What we'll do next is, when your new drivers are up, experiment first with setting late modesetting (as you currently have), which should get you 4K again, then I'll provide you with a template 4K EDID, and we'll force the system to use that. Once that's confirmed working, we'll set early modesetting again, which should improve your boot times a few seconds.

If you are able to get the model number of the Denon A/V unit then I can check whether all its HDMI ports are capable of 4K @ 60Hz, or whether you need to do any cable swapping.
 
When you say Verbose you mean it!! LOL
With 430 drivers installed Limited to 1920x1080
To add insult to injury, Nvida recognizes the 430.26 in their app as installed.


daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$ xrandr --verbose
Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x27e
Timestamp: 40115
Subpixel: unknown
Clones:
CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
CscMatrix: 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0
BorderDimensions: 4
supported: 4
Border: 0 0 0 0
range: (0, 65535)
SignalFormat: VGA
supported: VGA
ConnectorType: DVI-I
ConnectorNumber: 0
_ConnectorLocation: 0
DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x27f
Timestamp: 40115
Subpixel: unknown
Clones:
CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
CscMatrix: 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0
BorderDimensions: 4
supported: 4
Border: 0 0 0 0
range: (0, 65535)
SignalFormat: TMDS
supported: TMDS
ConnectorType: DVI-I
ConnectorNumber: 0
_ConnectorLocation: 0
HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (0x281) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1872mm x 1053mm
Identifier: 0x280
Timestamp: 40115
Subpixel: unknown
Gamma: 1.0:1.0:1.0
Brightness: 1.0
Clones:
CRTC: 0
CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
CscMatrix: 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0
EDID:
00ffffffffffff0011ee430001010101
00180103807341780acf74a3574cb023
09484c21080081c08140818001010101
01010101010108e80030f2705a80b058
8a00ba882100001e023a801871382d40
582c4500501d7400001e000000fc0044
454e4f4e2d4156414d500a20000000fd
00184b0f883c000a2020202020200164
0203657162615e5f605d6a6b01020405
101113141f202122120365666263640e
230f241d251e26320f7f073d1ec01507
505f7e01570600677e00835f00006e03
0c001400383c2000800102030467d85d
c401788803e200f9e305ff01e3060d01
e40f690060011d8018711c1620582c25
00c48e2100009e00000000000000003e
BorderDimensions: 4
supported: 4
Border: 0 0 0 0
range: (0, 65535)
SignalFormat: TMDS
supported: TMDS
ConnectorType: HDMI
ConnectorNumber: 2
_ConnectorLocation: 2
1920x1080 (0x281) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync *current +preferred
h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 67.50KHz
v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 60.00Hz
1920x1080 (0x282) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 33.75KHz
v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1124 clock 60.05Hz
1280x1024 (0x283) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1280 start 1328 end 1440 total 1688 skew 0 clock 63.98KHz
v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066 clock 60.02Hz
1280x960 (0x284) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1280 start 1376 end 1488 total 1800 skew 0 clock 60.00KHz
v: height 960 start 961 end 964 total 1000 clock 60.00Hz
1280x720 (0x285) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1280 start 1390 end 1430 total 1650 skew 0 clock 45.00KHz
v: height 720 start 725 end 730 total 750 clock 60.00Hz
1024x768 (0x286) 65.000MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 1024 start 1048 end 1184 total 1344 skew 0 clock 48.36KHz
v: height 768 start 771 end 777 total 806 clock 60.00Hz
800x600 (0x287) 40.000MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 800 start 840 end 968 total 1056 skew 0 clock 37.88KHz
v: height 600 start 601 end 605 total 628 clock 60.32Hz
640x480 (0x288) 25.175MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 640 start 656 end 752 total 800 skew 0 clock 31.47KHz
v: height 480 start 490 end 492 total 525 clock 59.94Hz
DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x289
Timestamp: 40115
Subpixel: unknown
Clones:
CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
CscMatrix: 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0
BorderDimensions: 4
supported: 4
Border: 0 0 0 0
range: (0, 65535)
SignalFormat: TMDS
supported: TMDS
ConnectorType: DisplayPort
ConnectorNumber: 3
_ConnectorLocation: 3
DVI-D-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x28a
Timestamp: 40115
Subpixel: unknown
Clones:
CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
CscMatrix: 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0
BorderDimensions: 4
supported: 4
Border: 0 0 0 0
range: (0, 65535)
SignalFormat: TMDS
supported: TMDS
ConnectorType: DVI-D
ConnectorNumber: 1
_ConnectorLocation: 1
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x28b
Timestamp: 40115
Subpixel: unknown
Clones:
CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
CscMatrix: 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0 0 0 0 65536 0
BorderDimensions: 4
supported: 4
Border: 0 0 0 0
range: (0, 65535)
SignalFormat: DisplayPort
supported: DisplayPort
ConnectorType: DisplayPort
ConnectorNumber: 3
_ConnectorLocation: 3
daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$
 
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root@daniel-System-Product-Name:/home/daniel# get-edid -q|parse-edid
Checksum Correct

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "DENON-AVAMP"
ModelName "DENON-AVAMP"
VendorName "DON"
# Monitor Manufactured week 0 of 2014
# EDID version 1.3
# Digital Display
DisplaySize 1150 650
Gamma 2.20
Option "DPMS" "false"
Horizsync 15-136
VertRefresh 24-75
# Maximum pixel clock is 600MHz
#Not giving standard mode: 1280x720, 60Hz
#Not giving standard mode: 1280x960, 60Hz
#Not giving standard mode: 1280x1024, 60Hz

#Extension block found. Parsing...
extb[4]: 0x62 (0x60)
Hmm, you have data blocks, but not video ones... weird
Something strange happened. Please contact the author,
Matthew Kern at <pyrophobicman@gmail.com>
root@daniel-System-Product-Name:/home/daniel#


While I'm thinking about it, you'll also need to do some hardware checking:

i) Ensure the HDMI cable from your computer to the AV unit, and from the AV unit to the TV are both HDMI 2.0 compliant. If only HDMI 1.4 you will not get 4K @ 60Hz whatever we do.
ii) Ensure that the HDMI cable from your AV unit to the TV is connected to the HDMI-2 port (ARC) on the TV. You have 4 HDMI ports, the two at the back are only good for 4K @ 30Hz, the two on the side are good for 4K @ 60Hz, HDMI-2 will allow you to control the AV receiver from your TV remote.
iii) Likewise, if I can have the exact model number of your AV unit, I can check for similar restrictions there.

Looking at supported cards, your GTX 670 is currently supported by the latest 430.34 revision.

My ARC connection is ka-put! The Tv's HDMI input connection is bent, I can get my AVR plup into it but no signal comes out of it...I had forgotten. I didn't take it back as I hate waste and I get good service from HDMI 1 which is also 60 hz.


It's a cheap $300 dollar TV. If I take it back it will go straight to the junk pile. Actually I'm rather attached to it. We had to buy when we were pretty broke and I really didn't expect it to be much at all. Other than the damaged ARC input it has been pretty flawless. I don't get the UHD and HDR, but I mark that up to not using my ARC connection.

Roku plays at 3820X 2160, 60hz my computer displays (with 340 drivers) above and beyond.
Could our missing ARC connect be the problem with other than 340 drivers?
My guess (I'll hear your opinion, but it will be to late as I already have my option, But we can change that if we need to.":O}Is no. If it were the 340's would be giving me shit as well..Yes?...NO???

In-cert you learned opinion Here Please:
 
Hi K. It's me Daniel ~
Would we be getting around the ARC problem by Using the TV as the input switcher?
I don't actually like not getting UHD and HDR.

When I test though ROKU it always fails but they let me force the 2.2 compliance.
I am certain that my cable are all 2.2 I replaced them twice because of this problem.
It seems reasonable to assume the failure to use arc is at the root of that.

But for some reason Netflix Does a sometimes on but mostly off thing where they use the upper corner of the screen to discreetly show you you resolution and bit rate. Where as it should be (I checked the content)
3820 it's stuck at 1080. I'll never live this down ! I've already told every one I have good stuff! ":O} I wish I knew if I can turn this feature (resolution and Bit rate) on or off or if my even seeing it is a freak thing.

I tried for days to get the TV to switch for me. It did, but I could not get the lip sync to really adjust or stop losing lip sync every time I changed inputs.

So how much can you help cure lip sync and would we actually avoid the damaged ARC in this manner?

I'm in a hurry so send a post card...Write urgent across the top so they know we mean business. I forgot I can't give out my home addy!
Not while Trummy is in change and out of control

So just post back here, I'll try to be grateful, honest.":O}
 
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P.S
Not remembering WHY I wasn't using the ARC I switched inputs to ARC lost all signal.
But it took several hours to get it to go back to HDMI1 where I had had it. Just would not pick up the signal..until finally it did.

I don't think using HDMI 1 and the AVR as the switcher is a natural state for my poor monitor.
Please discuss this among myself.":O}
 
My ARC connection is ka-put! The Tv's HDMI input connection is bent, I can get my AVR plup into it but no signal comes out of it...I had forgotten. I didn't take it back as I hate waste and I get good service from HDMI 1 which is also 60 hz.
That's unfortunate, but HDMI-1 is also OK. It's HDMI-3 and HDMI-4 that are the runts of this particular litter.

No, the reason why you're limited to 1920x1080 for the next little while is because of two things:
- kernel modesetting
- change in EDID handling

Let's sort out the modesetting problem first:

sudo su
mount /boot
nano -w /etc/default/grub

This will let you edit the grub configuration file relatively safely.

Scroll down to where it says GRUB_TIMEOUT= and change this to read GRUB_TIMEOUT=10

This will bring up the grub boot menu for 10s - you may need to select fallbacks if we get anything wrong.

Then were it says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" edit it to read

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset quiet splash"

Then, press Ctrl-o to save and Ctrl-x to exit.

Once saved, type

update-grub


Once complete, reboot
 
Hi K. It's me Daniel ~
Would we be getting around the ARC problem by Using the TV as the input switcher?
I don't actually like not getting UHD and HDR.
D~, while I've always loved your enthusiasm, you really need to control the urge to experiment here. Everything we've done so far has been for me to build up a picture of how your setup is laid out. If you now go changing cables around, then it's just time wasted.

Please put all your cabling back to how it was: computer, Roku and other devices to AVR, AVR to HDMI-1.

If you can also provide me with the AVR's model number, as I've asked a few times already, then I can check to make sure that there's no particular port arrangement needed on that, too. Pretty please?
 
Go on line and search your mother board, much easier than rampaging though your closets.":O}


Thank you for the suggestion Daniel. Holy frijoles Walmart wants just less than $300 for a new Asus Z170. Fortunately Ebay lists it for less than half that price. Can't find a list of included connectors for an extra SSD. Looks like there are connections on the board for two SSD's or, shudder HDD's.
 
Your going to be mad at me, please don't be mad.":O}
I switch the HDMI 1 cable to get us to ARC. Then realize, rememberd why I wasn't using it...To late.

Then it would not use HDMI 1 when I switched back to it. Tried for several hours.

SO...I did a restore...I know I'm sorry!! I was tried and I fell back into the only trick I know.What's worse I didn't do a back up BEFORE I restored, I meant to, but forgot. (How lame of me!)

So I just made more work for you, again Sorry. Even worse I don't know what of what I did was just to get information for you to analyze and what actually made changes to the system..in short what does my dumb ass need to redo to give you the changes we made?
I'm reluctant to follow your new instructions as they assume that I wouldn't e an idiot and change things on you.

You may have missed that I'm not getting 3820 with Roku using the Non ARC HDMI 1 I'm stuck at 1080, I'm pretty sure it's the not using ARC thing.

I'm sorry, if you haven't completely lost patience and still have the time I will try to do better.

So my machine state is exactly where it was when we began.
 
K wrote:
Please put all your cabling back to how it was: computer, Roku and other devices to AVR, AVR to HDMI-1.

If you can also provide me with the AVR's model number, as I've asked a few times already, then I can check to make sure that there's no particular port arrangement needed on that, too. Pretty please? (quote)

I'm confused here. HDMI 1 IS not ARC. ARC is labeled HDMI 2. As ARC is damaged I've been using HDMI 1
That is where we started and where my hardware is now,I didn't actually switch from using the Receiver AVR as the switcher. I only asked if we might do better that way as he TV wouldn't be using the damaged ARC but another input from the AVR
I've given you my Denon several times my friend, it's not going to change! LOL

Denon AV surround receiver S500BT

That's
an"S" before the 500

So if I have not exhausted you, where should I pick up the string and begin again ?
 
So my machine state is exactly where it was when we began.
That's OK, it's a known starting point. So far all I've been doing is gathering information and making sure I know what will happen next, and trying to anticipate what could go wrong ;) This ain't our first rodeo :p

So you're back on the 340 drivers?

Can you type the following command and paste the output?

xrandr

In the meantime, I'll look up your AVR and make sure there's nothing special about its cabling.
 
Got it. So the rear panel of your Denon looks like this:
http://manuals.denon.com/AVRS500BT/NA/EN/WBSPSYjsdhemcn.php

Right, so your connections will be:

Computer to Denon AVR, HDMI 5 GAME
Denon AVR, HDMI OUT to TV HDMI-1 (because HDMI-2 is broken and so we'll pretend it doesn't exist)

Your Roku should probably connect to the Denon's HDMI-4 (blu-ray)

All cables need to be HDMI2-compliant, which you confirmed in an earlier post.
 
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