Fallout 3 Guide

yashj3 · May 27, 2015

when i click on "new game" it crashes every time. I can't get past that.
Please help

booman · May 28, 2015

what is your system setup:

distro
32-bit or 64-bit
video card/chip
version of playonlinux

yashj3 · May 29, 2015

booman said:
what is your system setup:

distro

32-bit or 64-bit

video card/chip

version of playonlinux

ubuntu 14.04
64bit
amd radeon 6400
playonlinux version 4.2.8

booman · May 31, 2015

do you have the 32-bit libraries in Ubuntu so you can run games?

Ubuntu 14 32-bit libraries:

Code:

sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386

Cronyk · Jun 13, 2015

Hello guys,
I finally signed in after struggeling around for two weeks:

My system:
Linux Mint 17 "Quiana" Cinnamon 32bit (Ubuntu 14.04)
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor
NVIDEA GeForce GTS 250 (Driver version 331.133-0ubuntu0.0.4 Is this even right (the one with "recommented) )
4 GB DDR3 RAM

Firstable: THANK YOU very much for this guide!
But I have one Problem: Everytime when there is water around the game becomes a Photo show. Nothing works any more, just shivering and struggeling.
How can I fix this?

And, when I'm asking... there is also a problem with New Vegas. I installed it perfectly with the play on linux libary, but in VATS the whole environment is marked and every targeting zone has zero percent. Can you fix this too?
I mean, isn't it kind of the same game?

Greetings,
Cronyk

booman · Jun 15, 2015

I had the same problem with the water in Fallout 3. I definitely recommend trying a newer version of Wine like 1.7.44 or even a Wine staging version.
Let me know if it fixes the water bug.
I haven't tested Fallout 3 in a long time... so I'm not sure if it will help or not

Cronyk · Jun 15, 2015

Ok, I'll try.

Is it possible to install in 1.7.28 and then jjust change the wine Version in the configuration or have I to install it every time. Where can I see which wine version could work?
Staging version?

booman · Jun 16, 2015

In PlayOnLinux, click Tools
Then click Wine Manager
You can see all the versions of wine available
Select the one you want to try and click the left arrow

Cronyk · Jun 18, 2015

So, I've tested a few things...

Wine
1.7.28 staging
1.7.29 - 1.7.45
1.7.45 staging
Nothing works. It don't starts, crashes or just don't improves anything.
But the thing which makes me think is that 1.7.15 and 1.7.15 staging don't even work, too. Shouldn't them?

I just went to the configuration part and toggled the wine version.
This don't seem to work. have I to reinstall the wohle virtual drive with each wine version?

booman · Jun 19, 2015

So now its crashing? I thought you only had problems with water in the screen?

I just found a tip on the water...
Go to the Fallout 3 game folder and look for a Fallout.ini
Open it with TextEditor
Look for anything related to water and enter 0
Save it and try launching again.

Make sure to launch Fallout 3 with "debug" instead of "run"
This way you can see the errors when it crashes

Cronyk · Jun 19, 2015

Yeah well,

with 1.7.28 I had this water bug. But with some other versions it crashed. so there is no better version than 1.7.28 in 1.7.15 till today (1.7.44 I think).

I've set

[Water]
bUseWaterShader=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterDepth=1
bUseWaterHiRes=0
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterLOD=1
bReflectExplosions=0
bAutoWaterSilhouetteReflections=1
bForceHighDetailReflections=0
bForceLowDetailReflections=0
fTileTextureDivisor=4.7500
fSurfaceTileSize=2048.0000
fNearWaterOutdoorTolerance=1024.0000
fNearWaterIndoorTolerance=512.0000
fNearWaterUnderwaterVolume=0.9000
fNearWaterUnderwaterFreq=0.3000
uNearWaterPoints=8
uNearWaterRadius=1000
uSurfaceFPS=12

in the ini to

[Water]
bUseWaterShader=0
bUseWaterReflections=0
bUseWaterRefractions=0
bUseWaterDepth=0
bUseWaterHiRes=0
bUseWaterDisplacements=0
bUseWaterLOD=0
bReflectExplosions=0
bAutoWaterSilhouetteReflections=0
bForceHighDetailReflections=0
bForceLowDetailReflections=0
fTileTextureDivisor=4.7500
fSurfaceTileSize=2048.0000
fNearWaterOutdoorTolerance=1024.0000
fNearWaterIndoorTolerance=512.0000
fNearWaterUnderwaterVolume=0.9000
fNearWaterUnderwaterFreq=0.3000
uNearWaterPoints=8
uNearWaterRadius=1000
uSurfaceFPS=12

now... no improvement... just a couple of picturs around rivet city....

booman · Jun 19, 2015

Did you also do the music folder trick? Your game crashing might be related to that and not the water rendering.

Did you try messing with the video settings? Try everything on low as a test.

Also, try disabling GLSL in PlayOnLinux configure.
I'm stumped at this point... I remember this bug but will have to test with newer Wine versions to see if I have it as well.
There is a chance it might be a limitation with your video card, but its really hard to tell.

mrdeathjr28 · Jun 19, 2015

Cronyk said:
Hello guys,
I finally signed in after struggeling around for two weeks:

My system:
Linux Mint 17 "Quiana" Cinnamon 32bit (Ubuntu 14.04)
AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor
NVIDEA GeForce GTS 250 (Driver version 331.133-0ubuntu0.0.4 Is this even right (the one with "recommented) )
4 GB DDR3 RAM

Firstable: THANK YOU very much for this guide!
But I have one Problem: Everytime when there is water around the game becomes a Photo show. Nothing works any more, just shivering and struggeling.
How can I fix this?

And, when I'm asking... there is also a problem with New Vegas. I installed it perfectly with the play on linux libary, but in VATS the whole environment is marked and every targeting zone has zero percent. Can you fix this too?
I mean, isn't it kind of the same game?

Greetings,
Cronyk

Hi in my case works since some versions ago, however sometimes appears crashes before caused in my case because game shows problems with mp3 sound if you disable (rename mp3 carpet folder) solve this

Other things could cause crashes have relation with textures mod, especially NMC textures but in some places but when you come in this sites example in megaton wasteland works but when you go to store you must be save before entry and exit game, after this load save game previously saved and works

However in this moments finish some test with wine 1.7.45 + nvidia 352.21 and works very good with mp3 sounds too but because stay testing wine without gstreamer and use lav filters*

*this enable mpeg sequences in various games not fix all but fix various games like steins gate, nosferatu wrath of malachi, resident evil 4, blood rayne 2 and others with mpeg or related video sequences

Back to theme in lastest test works very good until nmc textures works more stable however in neil textures pack + other mods used for nmc and neil textures like as fellout (very good mod give more vivid colors like as fallout 4 ambient) and greenworld v2 (this give plants and other green vegetation) and works very good

This is some examples for fallout with mods and with mods (NMC textures and Neil Textures + Fellout and Greenworld v2 for both test)

Cronyk · Jun 22, 2015

I found this in the AbbDB to Fallout: New Vegas.

It seems to happen in both games, so also in FO3.

I had an issue with sound in new vegas (wine 1.7.23, 32bits on 64bits Debian, using winealsa.drv through pulseaudio): most of the time the sound would be okay, but sometimes - especially during gunfights, and especially during gunfights in exterior areas with echos and reverb sound effects - the sound would become extemely choppy/stuttering, to the point where the game itself would have a very, very low framerate (like 1FPS or less).

The issue *does* come from the sound since setting bEnableAudio=0 in the Fallout.ini file results in no sound but the game running perfectly smoothly even with very high quality settings and a high resolution.

The pulseaudio logs seem to suggest that the DirectSound/alsa implem in wine tries to open (way) too many alsa connections (had thousands of 'Created input 1689 "Alsa Playback"' in the PA logs).

Tried to update my kernel, alsa/pulseaudio binaries, to no effect. Using bMultiThreadAudio=1 in Fallout.ini as well as tweaking the DirectSound parameters in the registry (such as HelBuflen and SndQueueMax) seemed to help a bit - the sound was still very choppy/delayed but the graphics and the framerate was not affected anymore.

In any case, I finally found a fix if someone happens to have the same issue: do *not* use the wine DirectSound implementation, add an override so that the native dsound.dll is loaded instead of the builtin. Also, if you use the dsound.dll file from winetricks, you'll be likely to get a "dirty" sound with echoes and so on - using a 32 bits dsound.dll file from a Windows 7 install instead results in a perfectly crisp sound (with this file: www.down-dll.com/index.php?file-download=dsound.dll&arch=32Bit&version=6.2.9200.16384&dsc=DirectSound).

Anyway, there must something wrong in the wine DirectSound implem, probably occuring only on some set of hardware/software configuration. Using the override described above fixed the issue for me (and increased the framerate even further).

Can anyone try this out? I downloaded the DLL but I don't understand how to make this override.

booman · Jun 22, 2015

Normally DLL's have to be placed in c:\Windows\System32
Or it might need to be placed in the game folder.
Really depends on where Windows needs to access it.
Like the xlive.dll
It needs to be placed in the System32 folder, but that doesn't mean it will work.
When you add PlayOnLinux packages, they are basically installing the necessary libraries for the Windows System32 folder.
Check PlayOnLinux packages, there should be a direct sound available.
You could try it as well.

Cronyk · Jun 22, 2015

Ok, I tried to install the package. No "direct sound" but "direct music".
No other sound rilated direct packages available.

No improvements...
Any idears?

booman · Jun 23, 2015

You can also try direct play or dsound too.
Its worth a try

Cronyk · Jun 23, 2015

No improvement in Fallout 3

New Vegas works after 15min Test till now- or is better.

booman · Jun 23, 2015

It never hurts to re-install the whole game again in a new virtual drive. Sometimes after installing and configuring can break something.

Cronyk · Jun 23, 2015

So, which configuration do you recomment me? You know, I'm new on this stuff...