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  1. Daniel~

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    I bet you Kaitain knows! I have several input connectors on my motherboard that I have no clue what they do.
    But the smart money says they won't let you down load a new and better computer.":O}
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    I though it might be helpful to see mine in comparison, a very different result...WHY?

    And should these files be removed?

    daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$ sudo apt-get install mint-meta-codecs libdvdcss2
    [sudo] password for daniel:
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    mint-meta-codecs is already the newest version (2018.11.28).
    libdvdcss2 is already the newest version (1.4.2-dmo1).
    libdvdcss2 set to manually installed.
    The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
    linux-headers-4.15.0-43 linux-headers-4.15.0-43-generic linux-headers-4.15.0-45
    linux-headers-4.15.0-45-generic linux-headers-4.15.0-46 linux-headers-4.15.0-46-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-47 linux-headers-4.15.0-47-generic linux-headers-4.15.0-48
    linux-headers-4.15.0-48-generic linux-headers-4.15.0-50 linux-headers-4.15.0-50-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-51 linux-headers-4.15.0-51-generic linux-image-4.15.0-43-generic
    linux-image-4.15.0-45-generic linux-image-4.15.0-46-generic linux-image-4.15.0-47-generic
    linux-image-4.15.0-48-generic linux-image-4.15.0-50-generic linux-image-4.15.0-51-generic
    linux-modules-4.15.0-43-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-45-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-46-generic
    linux-modules-4.15.0-47-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-48-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-50-generic
    linux-modules-4.15.0-51-generic
    Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$
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    Short answer is because you already had mint-meta-codecs and libdvdcss2 installed.

    The other files are harmless - I'd leave them for now.
    Thanks for that. I couldn't find a 46" HiSense H6D, but did find reference to a 43" HiSense H6D. All this tells me is that they're no longer sold.

    Anyway, what all the above tells me is that you've connected via an A/V receiver. Your Denon receiver is providing its own EDID rather than passing through the HiSense unit's EDID. I think you talked about this in another thread.

    Anyway, what we'll eventually try to do is extract the TV's EDID, then force the graphics card to use that, rather than try to negotiate with the Denon unit. Since I don't want to let the magic blue smoke out of anything, it'll be slow steps.

    First off, let's see what your computer can actually see. You don't need sudo for this bit. Can I have the full output of:

    xrandr --verbose
    Kaitain, Jul 16, 2019
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    I initially tried hooking up with the Hisense as my switcher hub, But I could not get the audio to sync with the video, So I went with the Denon switcher. So now I have to force UHD for my Roku. But the set itself won't recognize UHD when it is present..probably the Denon pass thought. A minor but persistent annoyance.":O}

    OH! It probably is a 43 inch. My bad! ":O}


    daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$
    daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$ xrandr --verbose

    Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 4096 x 2160, maximum 16384 x 16384
    DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    Identifier: 0x27e
    Timestamp: 48247
    Subpixel: unknown
    Clones:
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    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
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    supported: 4
    Border: 0 0 0 0
    range: (0, 65535)
    SignalFormat: VGA
    supported: VGA
    ConnectorType: DVI-I
    ConnectorNumber: 0
    _ConnectorLocation: 0
    DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    Identifier: 0x27f
    Timestamp: 48247
    Subpixel: unknown
    Clones:
    CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
    Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
    0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
    filter:
    BorderDimensions: 4
    supported: 4
    Border: 0 0 0 0
    range: (0, 65535)
    SignalFormat: TMDS
    supported: TMDS
    ConnectorType: DVI-I
    ConnectorNumber: 0
    _ConnectorLocation: 0
    HDMI-0 connected primary 4096x2160+0+0 (0x281) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 256mm x 135mm
    Identifier: 0x280
    Timestamp: 48247
    Subpixel: unknown
    Gamma: 1.0:1.0:1.0
    Brightness: 1.0
    Clones:
    CRTC: 0
    CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
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    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
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    filter:
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    00ffffffffffff0011ee430001010101
    00180103807341780acf74a3574cb023
    09484c21080081c08140818001010101
    01010101010108e80030f2705a80b058
    8a00ba882100001e023a801871382d40
    582c4500501d7400001e000000fc0044
    454e4f4e2d4156414d500a20000000fd
    00184b0f883c000a2020202020200164
    0203657162615e5f605d6a6b01020405
    101113141f202122120365666263640e
    230f241d251e26320f7f073d1ec01507
    505f7e01570600677e00835f00006e03
    0c001400383c2000800102030467d85d
    c401788803e200f9e305ff01e3060d01
    e40f690060011d8018711c1620582c25
    00c48e2100009e00000000000000003e
    BorderDimensions: 4
    supported: 4
    Border: 0 0 0 0
    range: (0, 65535)
    SignalFormat: TMDS
    supported: TMDS
    ConnectorType: HDMI
    ConnectorNumber: 2
    _ConnectorLocation: 2
    4096x2160 (0x281) 296.700MHz +HSync +VSync *current +preferred
    h: width 4096 start 4184 end 4272 total 4400 skew 0 clock 67.43KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 29.97Hz
    4096x2160 (0x282) 297.000MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 4096 start 5064 end 5152 total 5280 skew 0 clock 56.25KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 25.00Hz
    4096x2160 (0x283) 297.000MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 4096 start 5116 end 5204 total 5500 skew 0 clock 54.00KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 24.00Hz
    4096x2160 (0x284) 296.750MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 4096 start 5116 end 5204 total 5500 skew 0 clock 53.95KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 23.98Hz
    3840x2160 (0x285) 296.700MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 3840 start 4016 end 4104 total 4400 skew 0 clock 67.43KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 29.97Hz
    3840x2160 (0x286) 297.000MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 3840 start 4896 end 4984 total 5280 skew 0 clock 56.25KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 25.00Hz
    3840x2160 (0x287) 296.750MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 3840 start 5116 end 5204 total 5500 skew 0 clock 53.95KHz
    v: height 2160 start 2168 end 2178 total 2250 clock 23.98Hz
    1920x1080 (0x288) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 67.50KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 60.00Hz
    1920x1080 (0x289) 148.350MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 67.43KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 59.94Hz
    1920x1080 (0x28a) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 1920 start 2448 end 2492 total 2640 skew 0 clock 56.25KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 50.00Hz
    1920x1080 (0x28b) 74.180MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 33.72KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 29.97Hz
    1920x1080 (0x28c) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 1920 start 2448 end 2492 total 2640 skew 0 clock 28.12KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 25.00Hz
    1920x1080 (0x28d) 74.160MHz +HSync +VSync
    h: width 1920 start 2558 end 2602 total 2750 skew 0 clock 26.97KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 23.97Hz
    1920x1080 (0x28e) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
    h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 33.75KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1124 clock 60.05Hz
    1920x1080 (0x28f) 74.180MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
    h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 33.72KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1124 clock 60.00Hz
    1920x1080 (0x290) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
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    1280x1024 (0x291) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
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    1280x720 (0x293) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
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    1280x720 (0x294) 74.180MHz +HSync +VSync
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    1280x720 (0x295) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
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    1024x768 (0x296) 65.000MHz -HSync -VSync
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    800x600 (0x297) 40.000MHz +HSync +VSync
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    640x480 (0x29b) 25.170MHz -HSync -VSync
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    480x576 (0x29c) 18.000MHz -HSync +VSync
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    v: height 576 start 581 end 586 total 625 clock 50.00Hz
    480x480 (0x29d) 18.000MHz -HSync -VSync
    h: width 480 start 490 end 532 total 572 skew 0 clock 31.47KHz
    v: height 480 start 489 end 495 total 525 clock 59.94Hz
    411x576 (0x29e) 15.428MHz -HSync -VSync
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    411x480 (0x29f) 15.428MHz -HSync -VSync
    h: width 411 start 420 end 456 total 490 skew 0 clock 31.49KHz
    v: height 480 start 489 end 495 total 525 clock 59.97Hz
    DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    Identifier: 0x2a0
    Timestamp: 48247
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    Timestamp: 48247
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    DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    Identifier: 0x2a2
    Timestamp: 48247
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    ConnectorNumber: 3
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  5. Kaitain

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    EDIT: OK, so you have 4K at the moment with 340 drivers - your concern is that you can't use 370s, yes?
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2019
    Kaitain, Jul 17, 2019
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    Crud, I can't find the box that held my mainboard in the last system upgrade. Perhaps one of these connectors is in there. Arrgh. They are the up to date ones that supplanted data ribbons in days of old. Those ribbons looked cool, at least to me. BUT they were great blockers of air movement too.
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    SATA cable? Or if you're going old-school, then just ATA or IDE cable
    Kaitain, Jul 17, 2019
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  8. Daniel~

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    Basically yes.No other drivers will go to 3820, they are stuck at 1920 and won't offer anything higher So I'm stuck at 340 drivers.

    Weather this is a good thing or bad is hard to say as the newer drivers can't do 3820 for me.
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    OK, that makes sense. At around revision 364, nVidia enabled support for kernel modesetting, but in true nVidia style, they didn't use a lot of the kernel infrastructure but rolled their own. Among the problems are lack of support for the fbdev high resolution framebuffer.

    What this means for you is that at the moment, you're not making use at all of kernel modesetting, but instead late modesetting, by which time X is starting and negotiating its own screen mode. It's then able to settle on a 4K resolution.

    The steps I'd like to go through to test that this is really the case are:
    1. Dump and extract the EDID your system is currently using. This will allow me to confirm whether it's the Denon's EDID or the screen's.
    2. Upgrade your nVidia driver - you may end up with a few days on 1920x1080 as we're on different timezones while we go through this. Don't panic!
    3. At that point, I'll need to see things like your xorg.log and some output from xrandr etc. to see what your computer thinks is connected to it.
    4. We'll check boot options, initially disabling modesetting to force the nvidia module to use the old method of negotiating a screen (though this will slow down your boot time, which is important to you for some reason ;))
    5. If that's not satisfactory, we'll force the system to use the EDID that we extracted in Step 1.

    Reasonable? If so, then first instruction is:

    sudo apt-get install read-edid
    Kaitain, Jul 18, 2019
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    Thank you Kaitain!

    Shoot, I think I have one or two ATA power supplies in a closet. Note to self: Dude! They'll never be of any use!
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2019
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    daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$ sudo apt-get install read-edid
    [sudo] password for daniel:
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
    linux-headers-4.15.0-43 linux-headers-4.15.0-43-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-45 linux-headers-4.15.0-45-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-46 linux-headers-4.15.0-46-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-47 linux-headers-4.15.0-47-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-48 linux-headers-4.15.0-48-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-50 linux-headers-4.15.0-50-generic
    linux-headers-4.15.0-51 linux-headers-4.15.0-51-generic
    linux-image-4.15.0-43-generic linux-image-4.15.0-45-generic
    linux-image-4.15.0-46-generic linux-image-4.15.0-47-generic
    linux-image-4.15.0-48-generic linux-image-4.15.0-50-generic
    linux-image-4.15.0-51-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-43-generic
    linux-modules-4.15.0-45-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-46-generic
    linux-modules-4.15.0-47-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-48-generic
    linux-modules-4.15.0-50-generic linux-modules-4.15.0-51-generic
    Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
    The following additional packages will be installed:
    libx86-1
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    libx86-1 read-edid
    0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 94.1 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 336 kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
    Get:1 http://la-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 libx86-1 amd64 1.1+ds1-10.2 [75.2 kB]
    Get:2 http://la-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 read-edid amd64 3.0.2-1build1 [18.9 kB]
    Fetched 94.1 kB in 1s (68.1 kB/s)
    Selecting previously unselected package libx86-1:amd64.
    (Reading database ... 540208 files and directories currently installed.)
    Preparing to unpack .../libx86-1_1.1+ds1-10.2_amd64.deb ...
    Unpacking libx86-1:amd64 (1.1+ds1-10.2) ...
    Selecting previously unselected package read-edid.
    Preparing to unpack .../read-edid_3.0.2-1build1_amd64.deb ...
    Unpacking read-edid (3.0.2-1build1) ...
    Setting up libx86-1:amd64 (1.1+ds1-10.2) ...
    Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.27-3ubuntu1) ...
    Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2ubuntu0.1) ...
    Setting up read-edid (3.0.2-1build1) ...
    daniel@daniel-System-Product-Name:~$

    I completed a back up before starting on this...So feel free to play fast and loose with this.":O}

    Many thanks K. I always knew you were one of the good ones. I would have told you but wished to spare you vanity.":O}
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2019
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    OK, next thing - I'd like to see your current Xorg.log. It'll be easier all round if you attach it as a file, so:

    Code:
    sudo su
cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /home/daniel/.
chown daniel:daniel /home/daniel/Xorg.0.log
    Then in your next reply, select "Upload a File" and upload /home/Daniel/Xorg.0.log

    Next, while still with root permissions:

    Code:
    get-edid -q|parse-edid
    ... and paste the output. Also, let's retain what your system currently sees:

    Code:
    get-edid -q > /home/daniel/4kedid.bin
    (You may need this file later)
    Kaitain, Jul 19, 2019
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    While I'm thinking about it, you'll also need to do some hardware checking:

    i) Ensure the HDMI cable from your computer to the AV unit, and from the AV unit to the TV are both HDMI 2.0 compliant. If only HDMI 1.4 you will not get 4K @ 60Hz whatever we do.
    ii) Ensure that the HDMI cable from your AV unit to the TV is connected to the HDMI-2 port (ARC) on the TV. You have 4 HDMI ports, the two at the back are only good for 4K @ 30Hz, the two on the side are good for 4K @ 60Hz, HDMI-2 will allow you to control the AV receiver from your TV remote.
    iii) Likewise, if I can have the exact model number of your AV unit, I can check for similar restrictions there.

    Looking at supported cards, your GTX 670 is currently supported by the latest 430.34 revision.
    Kaitain, Jul 19, 2019
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    Replaced all my HDMI cables and upgraded them to 2.0

    Will do some digging on my specs and get back to you.

    My Receiver
    Denon AVR-S500BT
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2019
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    Sure, if in the meantime you can post your Xorg.0.log and edid output as given in post #92 then I can look through those and make sure I'm on the right track.
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    Follow each of these steps in turn. First:
    Code:
    sudo su
    then type your password. You're now in a shell with root privileges.

    You can just copy and paste the next block - the computer should do it all for you.
    Code:
    cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /home/daniel/.
chown daniel:daniel /home/daniel/Xorg.0.log
exit
    Then copy/paste this instruction
    Code:
    tar -czf /home/daniel/Xorg.0.log.tar.gz /home/daniel/Xorg.0.log
    Then, in the bottom right of the message editing box on GoL, you've got 3 buttons - "Post Reply" "Upload a File" "More Options..."
    Click "Upload a File" then click "Choose File" in the dialog that pops up. That will open up a file chooser, which should automatically point to your /home/daniel location.

    Click on the "Xorg.0.log.tar.gz" file you just created in the above, then click "OK". It'll upload the file to the board, at which point you can close that dialog and post your message.
    Kaitain, Jul 19, 2019
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    I'll try again tomorrow to many things need my attention today, Sorry to delay.
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    That's perfect, thanks D~!

    Not to worry, I'm several hours ahead of you, so I'd posted that then gone to sleep :rolling:
    Kaitain, Jul 20, 2019
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