Time to say hello to Mint 19.1 AKA Tess!

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  1. Daniel~

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    Spent most of yesterday installing the Tess upgrade.
    I won't bore you with telling how smooth and easy a transition it was, it nearly always or hell always is.

    Lot's of small improvements that you don't need to know about unless you install it.
    So no talk of improvements.

    For me getting a big bunch of new background wallpapers has always been enough reason to upgrade. So no chit chat about who should upgrade and who should wait for God's own perfection to arrive.

    In short you will know more than I do the day after you upgrade.

    So mostly, not completely, but mostly I'm just saying Mint. WOW. Tess is here.
    Rejoice! lot's of beautiful new back grounds!! ":O}

    Now I feel compelled to rat out NVIDIA or Mint...let God be the judge! LOL

    It started with Tara....No I was waiting for Tara to fix it. Then I was waiting for Tess to heal my wounds.

    Here it is in a crab shell.

    I'm still using 340 drivers when 390 drivers are not only available in "Driver Manger" but are the RECOMMENDED drivers.

    But when I try to use them they refuse to offer any Rez higher than 1920x1080.
    Very annoying....with some pouting on my part.

    I therefore use the 340 drivers and get my sweet deal at 4096X2160

    Now on to my pouting!

    When I installed the 390 drivers and once more found them deficient in rez I naturally went back to my fall back drivers offered in "Driver manager" " Driver manager refuses to reinstall the 340.

    So I go to my back up of Tess (I always make a back up as soon As I install a new release. Save heaps of time if you get into driver troubles.)

    Then try again to install the 390 drivers, Same thing. Once I install the 390 drivers Driver manger won't let me go back.

    I'm going to give it another shout. I'm changing the Rez to auto in NVIDIA settings before I try. I can't really see how this will help. but as I have my back up all I can lose is time...I hope.":O}

    One might think that at my advanced level of accomplishment I wouldn't need any help with this. One might think that if one is an idiot!

    Assuming that you are not...HELP!! ":O}
    Daniel~, Dec 27, 2018
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    Daniel~ Chief BBS Administrator Staff Member

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    Tried and there is strangeness all around!
    For the first time a non Nivida, Mint screen comes up on re boot. It says 4096X2360 but it is frozen, can't click and can't close except to reboot and it comes up again.

    On to Nvidia. It now says 4096X2360, but my desk top is not at that rez and it no longer fits my screen.
    And as a bonus I have double Icons on Desktop...first time for that as well.

    I'm off to do a restore,thank eveyone for fast restores!

    PS I have q 46" monitor not a 51"

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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Very nice!
    I finally installed Mint 19 after messing up my partitions and loosing everything.
    I'm loving it! Not having any issues, but I do miss the login themes. There used to be a whole bunch of them, but now are gone. :(

    Daniel, what video card are you using?

    I have mostly upgraded all of my Mint PC's to Nvidia 396.54 or higher
    These video cards range from:
    • 550 Ti
    • 750 Ti
    • GTX 660
    • GTX 950
    • GTX 1060
    But I also do not have a 4K TV connected to my video cards.
    booman, Dec 28, 2018
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    Daniel~ Chief BBS Administrator Staff Member

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    GTX 670 FTW
    Daniel~, Dec 29, 2018
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    Daniel~ Chief BBS Administrator Staff Member

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    Say Boo, While I've got you here...
    Where does mint put the background wallpapers?

    I copy each new release's wallpapers to a common folder so I can shuffle though them all
    in slide show mode.

    Obviously I use to know, but now have spent hours looking to no avail.
    Daniel~, Dec 29, 2018
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    Sorry, no help with your Video problems. Tess, that's a departure from the names used for recent updates. I like it!

    Seems like you have massive screen resolution, amazing.

    I read that 4K is better left alone atm. There's hardly any media available that uses 3 million pixels for the picture. And it's expensive. 8K is completely out to lunch, eight million pixels. Ai yai yai.
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    Now not possible to buy 1080 everything has gone to 4k.
    Net flicks offers more than a few movies in 4k, and fewer in the HDR format.

    That said, it can at times be hard to see improvement

    Personally I would not have upgraded if I did need to fit a smaller monitor in my trailer.
    Daniel~, Dec 29, 2018
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    Daniel~ Chief BBS Administrator Staff Member

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    As far as my driver problems go, this is minor. the 340 drivers work great. I'm more puzzled than anything else.
    Daniel~, Dec 29, 2018
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    I wonder if you can avoid a "smart" tv nowadays? Letting "them" snoop on me is distasteful.
    cloasters, Dec 30, 2018
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    That card should handle 4K, but as we all know... Linux drivers aren't the best these days. Even Nvidia drivers.
    At this point, just stick with 340 (sadly) and test the new ones as they arrive.
    I think the newest right now is 410, but you should be able to switch them back with the driver manager. I've done it many times without issues... at least with Mint 18 (versions)

    As for wallpapers, I just created a folder called "screenshots" or "wallpaper" and add folder of games in there. Then right-click the desktop and click "Change Desktop Wallpaper"
    Then click the + to add a folder.
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    Daniel~ Chief BBS Administrator Staff Member

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    Not a problem George. Just don't allow it to access the internet.
    Daniel~, Dec 30, 2018
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    For 'them' to snoop on you, you'd still have to hook it up to your internet connection/internal network.

    So don't.
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    I'm very puzzled as well. I'm on 18.3, but I'm running the 384.130 drivers without issue. I don't normally run at 4K because I have 2 monitors and my video can only drive one monitor at 4K, but whenever I switch to my internal laptop display (3K) or go single monitor at 4K, everything works fine.
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    I understand Boo, that's what I have done up till now. But I can't find the folder in Mint that has the new backgrounds for 19.1. I need to find it in order to add them to my big picture Mint folder.

    My card tops out at 4096 X 2160 30 Hrz.
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    Daniel~ Chief BBS Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm pulling my driver from Driver manager. Here's what it offers me:

    Screenshot from 2018-12-30 10-53-24.png Screenshot from 2018-12-30 10-53-24.png
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    Damn I've got my blood up! I'm going to try again.

    So if I'm gone for a 1/2 hour you'll know I failed.
    If I'm preening and parading about...well you get the picture! ":O}
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    Things still be strange and unknowable.":O}

    390 installs as per usual and then fails as per usual.
    But then I tried to reinstall the 340's I got this message which I saved for you by being thoughtful and very clever...I put it in my back up drive before restoring my drive to the 340's (yes, backup/restore)

    still stuck at 1920 with the 390's.

    This message:

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    I'm wide open to any suggestion that does not strain the bounds of decency.
    (You know like start over and install from scratch!!)
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    Wowsa, some of you hep cats are running your computer monitors at 4K? Who gnu?
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    Thank you all for the solution to Smart TV. I'm resolutely not connected to the web with my tv. And have no wireless foolishness in my apt.
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