League is almost my life! <:C

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  1. Aremis

    Aremis Member

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    I got league working in linux. I have on average 70 FPS and I even have sound working. Menus rarely bug out at all :D

    To fix the general sound issue I deleted pulseaudio. It was always a pain in my ass.

    I'm excited and sad all at the same time! D:!
    Aremis, Jun 12, 2015
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    ThunderRd Irreverent Query Chairman Staff Member

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    I don't miss pulseaudio in the slightest. You have nothing to be sad about.

    I've been using alsa + jack, and it is brilliant for my purposes. No bugs at all that I have seen.
    ThunderRd, Jun 15, 2015
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  3. booman

    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    I really really really want to remove Pulseaudio because it has been causing issues in PlayOnLinux for several years now.
    Obviously Wine is never going to support it.
    What are the risks of removing Pulseaudio?

    I recently setup another Mint desktop for games and of course Pulseaudio and Alsa are fighting in Wine. Sometimes it works and other times it doesn't... I've been getting those buffer underrun errors as well.

    Can I just play games with Alsa alone?
    booman, Jun 18, 2015
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    I love pulseaudio, sadly there's no one to polish pulseaudio audio driver in WINE and it's been like that for years.

    There are no risks on removing pulseaudio, it's relatively a really simple procedure:

    If you are using a debian derivative(Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc):

    Code:
    sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
    Do keep in mind that your DE may be set to use pulseaudio.

    However, we aren't in 2006 or anything like that by now if there's no pulseaudio everything SHOULD fallback to ALSA. If it doesn't you have to do it manually, thus this varies PER APPLICATION (don't expect all applications to fallback to ALSA automatically. Skype does while people say it doesn't, afaik)
    allenskd, Jun 28, 2015
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    I've got it worked out somehow on my other Mint installation. I kept messing around with settings and yanked out my SoundBlaster card. I'm using the onboard audio now and it seems happy with your fix.
    Really sucks because I'm tired of fighting with Pulseaudio, Alsa and Wine.

    If Cinnamon requires Pulseaudio and I remove it, what will happen? No sound effects?
    booman, Jun 29, 2015
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    Whenever you update cinnamon it will pull pulseaudio as a dependency. You can still have pulseaudio installed, but just disable this.

    This is why I don't like Cinnamon.

    I prefer Xfce or OpenBox for the freedom. No bullshit dependencies.
    Aryvandaar, Jul 1, 2015
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  7. booman

    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    So are you saying when I update Pulseaudio will automatically be installed again?
    I use Openbox as well, for some games.
    booman, Jul 1, 2015
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    Not any package, but a requirement (dependency) for cinnamon is pulseaudio, so if you get an update for the cinnamon packages, it will want to install pulseaudio again.

    Pulseaudio isn't actually a required component of Cinnamon. You can just disable the pulseaudio service, and just run alsa or alsa oss or alsa jack if you want.
    Aryvandaar, Jul 1, 2015
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Ok, I got it..
    For the most part its only frustrating with a new Mint installation and playing Wine games.
    Everything else works fine.
    Once I play with it and Wine, then it seems to be happy.
    I think my main problem was the SoundBlaster expansion card.
    booman, Jul 1, 2015
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    I have an ASUS Xonar DS. Works great in Linux.
    Aryvandaar, Jul 1, 2015
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    I'm using an old ASUS P5N32 SLI Plus
    It has an PCIe 4x expansion audio card.
    I had a SoundBlaster Audigy in it, but Pulse and Alsa were fighting. Every time I made an config change sound would either stop, or pound my CPU.
    So I took out the SB card and just used the ASUS card, now its working great, but I still needed the config changes to Pulseaudio so they would stop fighting.
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    You can leave Cinnamon, if you are using a modern distribution (with systemd): Simply type:

    Code:
    sudo systemctl stop pulseaudio
sudo systemctl disable pulseaudio 
(reboot)
    Not that there won't be any sound if some programs have exclusively used Pulseaudio as the default audio driver with no ALSA fallback.

    Honestly though I don't know much about your situation... feels like I'm lacking a lot of information, haha. You could always start a new thread and see if we can do something.
    allenskd, Jul 1, 2015
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  13. booman

    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Thanks
    I'm good for now
    When I decide to go Linux across-the-board then I'll be posting my problems.
    6 different motherboards, audio chips, video cards... definitely going to have problems
    I'm still going to wait for stable Wine 1.8, $$ to upgrade the video cards and hard drives.
    booman, Jul 1, 2015
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    I won'tbe using linux full on until my streaming box is finished. A nice Phenom Black with a new 300 series in it and 12 GB ram plus an SSD dedicated to Swap with another as boot and a few TB drives.

    Can't wait! X3
    Aremis, Jul 13, 2015
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